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I am glad tthe Canadian Goverment is going to help all this people stay in "Legal" term in this country.


GLAD TO BE A HISPANIC-CANADIAN


Salud... 



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" Are you kidding??? Now I agree that Canada is alot better than the dictatorships and war-torn countries our parents escaped but since when is it democratical to have tuition fees that most of the country's young ppl can't afford and/or will spend most of their life trying to pay back. What's democratical about paying between 17-25% of my annual  income and never seeing any benifits from that. How come in Jane & Weston the City doesn't clear the snow from side streets but in forest hill (Younge& lawerence) the City clears the snow from side streets AND send a bob-cat to clear the side walks also. Canada hasn't been a truelly democratical state since Pierre Trudeau was PM."


 sobre los beneficios de los impuestos que pagas y dicen que no los ves, dime "CHILENITO" cuanto le pagas tu al doctor por cada visita, cuando pagas tu por ir al High School, y que te parece la limpieza de las calles y el buen estado de las autopistas... y la lista continua...


La verdad que eres un ignorate "CHILENITO" y dejame decirte este pais es mucho mejor que el tuyo pero si a ti no te gusta MAL AGRADECIDO regresate al tuyo.


Parece que DEMOCRACIA para ti es+> no impuestos y todo GRATIS . dejame ver.. la vieja idea "socialista" que llevo al CARAJO a la union sovietica verdad...


CRECE hombre deja tus ideas de extrema izquierda lamete las heridas del pasado y crece y aprende a valorar a este pais que te da seguridad, comida y trabajo.



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" no hay de que Con lo que acurrido el dia de ayer, creo que si aun hay una esperanza para que todo salga como fue prometido.   No se preocupe porque parese que si se va a llevar a cabo la aprovasion del bill para los trabajadores illegales espero que todo le salga bien annony.a usted y a todos en la misma situacion  "


Igualmente yo Annony, les deseo lo mejor y va a ver que todo va a salir bien hay que pedirle a la virgen de Guadalupe a mi mami ya le ah echo milagors.


Yesi



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"GRACIAS CHELA POR LA IMFORMACION, ALGO DE ESO SABIA, QUE LOS QUE DEPENDEMOS DE UN MILAGRO SE PUEDE DAR EN UN PAR DE DIAS,.....SI "UN MILAGRO" DIGO ESTO PORQUE LOS QUE VIVIMOS EN ESTA SITUACION, ALGUNOS SOLOS OTROS CON HIJOS Y ESPOSA.....SERIA UN MILAGRO DEL JEFE, PORQUE ESPERAR ALGO DE IMIGRACION CON LOS CASOS INHUMANOS DE ESTOS ULTIMOS DIAS, ....Y NO HABLO SOLO DE LATINOS, DE OTRO CONTINENTE TAMBIEN, SI!!!  SOLO LOS QUE VIVEN O VIVIERON ESTA CLASE DE VIDA, ESPERAMOS UN MILAGRO, SEA POSITIVO O NEGATIVO, CUALQUIERA SEA LA DECISION DE IMIGRACION, ESPERO QUE CADA PERSONA O FAMILIA ENCUENTRE EL CAMINO PARA VIVIR DIGNAMENTE Y GANARSE EL PAN, CADA DIA Y MANTENER LA FAMILIA UNIDA. CADA PERSONA ES DIFERENTE A OTRA, CADA CASO ES DIFERENTE, PERO TODOS ESTAMOS EN EL MISMO BARCO, EN EL BARCO DE LOS QUE EMIGRAN PARA UNA VIDA DIGNA, NOS MERECEMOS RESPETO, SI EL HUMANO (POLITICO, MINISTRO, JEFE, CAPITAN, LO QUE SEA), NOS RESPETARA SOLO UN POCO, ESTARIAMOS MOTIVADOS Y NOS SENTIRIAMOS QUE ESTE PAIS ES NUESTRA SEGUNDA CASA, PERO SINCERAMENTE, SON MUY POCOS LOS TIENEN ESTE SENTIMIENTO. SEA A FAVOR O ENTCONTRA, NO BAJEMOS LOS BRAZOS, ASI COMO LOS USAMOS PARA CLAVAR CLAVOS O CUALQUIER TRABAJO DIGNO PARA LLEVAR UN PLATO DE COMIDA A NUESTORS HIJOS, .........IGUALMENTE DIOS NOS BENDICE CADA DIA. SOY ANONIMO, SOY LATINO Y SOY ILEGAL. Espero me entirendan, y gracias por la informacion."




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Con lo que acurrido el dia de ayer, creo que si aun hay una esperanza para que todo salga como fue prometido.   No se preocupe porque parese que si se va a llevar a cabo la aprovasion del bill para los trabajadores illegales


espero que todo le salga bien annony.
a usted y a todos en la misma situacion




 



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GRACIAS CHELA POR LA IMFORMACION, ALGO DE ESO SABIA, QUE LOS QUE DEPENDEMOS DE UN MILAGRO SE PUEDE DAR EN UN PAR DE DIAS,.....SI "UN MILAGRO"


DIGO ESTO PORQUE LOS QUE VIVIMOS EN ESTA SITUACION, ALGUNOS SOLOS OTROS CON HIJOS Y ESPOSA.....SERIA UN MILAGRO DEL JEFE, PORQUE ESPERAR ALGO DE IMIGRACION CON LOS CASOS INHUMANOS DE ESTOS ULTIMOS DIAS, ....Y NO HABLO SOLO DE LATINOS, DE OTRO CONTINENTE TAMBIEN,


SI!!!  SOLO LOS QUE VIVEN O VIVIERON ESTA CLASE DE VIDA, ESPERAMOS UN MILAGRO, SEA POSITIVO O NEGATIVO, CUALQUIERA SEA LA DECISION DE IMIGRACION, ESPERO QUE CADA PERSONA O FAMILIA ENCUENTRE EL CAMINO PARA VIVIR DIGNAMENTE Y GANARSE EL PAN, CADA DIA Y MANTENER LA FAMILIA UNIDA.


CADA PERSONA ES DIFERENTE A OTRA, CADA CASO ES DIFERENTE, PERO TODOS ESTAMOS EN EL MISMO BARCO, EN EL BARCO DE LOS QUE EMIGRAN PARA UNA VIDA DIGNA, NOS MERECEMOS RESPETO, SI EL HUMANO (POLITICO, MINISTRO, JEFE, CAPITAN, LO QUE SEA), NOS RESPETARA SOLO UN POCO, ESTARIAMOS MOTIVADOS Y NOS SENTIRIAMOS QUE ESTE PAIS ES NUESTRA SEGUNDA CASA, PERO SINCERAMENTE, SON MUY POCOS LOS TIENEN ESTE SENTIMIENTO.


SEA A FAVOR O ENTCONTRA, NO BAJEMOS LOS BRAZOS, ASI COMO LOS USAMOS PARA CLAVAR CLAVOS O CUALQUIER TRABAJO DIGNO PARA LLEVAR UN PLATO DE COMIDA A NUESTORS HIJOS, .........IGUALMENTE DIOS NOS BENDICE CADA DIA.


SOY ANONIMO, SOY LATINO Y SOY ILEGAL. Espero me entirendan, y gracias por la informacion.



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so now that the government (liberals) is in risk of getting overthrown they decide to help illegals????
WTF!!!!! they're trying to use inmigration to stay in power

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numerous federal departments as well as departments and agencies within provincial and territorial jurisdiction. It also requires the input of diverse stakeholders across the country.


Furthermore — and importantly — this mandate is not restricted to the issue of foreign credentials, nor are my activities to be limited to this single issue alone.


It is imperative to look at all aspects of how we encourage newcomers to feel at home when they settle here. There is also an imperative to examine how we can help every Canadian — not just newcomers — to become fully participating members of our society. The Government intends to do both.


This brings me to a point I want to emphasize. Maximizing our skills potential in today’s competitive environment is not an immigrant issue alone. All Canadians, whether educated and trained in this country or abroad, should have the opportunity to find creative work in their chosen field of endeavour if we are going to reach our fullest potential.


The reality is, however, that newcomers are facing serious and specific obstacles to participation that need to be addressed.


In this regard, we intend to act deliberately and in conjunction with our many other partners.


And we are doing so.


As Parliamentary Secretary responsible for integrating immigration and labour market policies, I am coordinating an inter-departmental action plan that will help to achieve this objective.


In addition to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, departments involved in this initiative include Human Resources and Skills Development, Health Canada, Canadian Heritage, Industry Canada and Foreign Affairs and International Trade.


One of our primary objectives is to strengthen and expand partnerships to create fairer and more transparent processes for foreign credential recognition. These partners include provincial and territorial governments, regulatory bodies, employers, sector councils and unions, learning institutions and others across the country.


This pan-Canadian approach to assessing and recognizing foreign credentials is based on five principles.


Our approach to recognizing foreign credentials in Canada will be:


Accessible — that is, everyone wishing to have their credentials assessed in Canada, no matter where they are, will have access to the appropriate services;


Fair — everyone having their credentials assessed will be treated equitably;


Coherent — there will be similar processes to assess and recognize credentials in all jurisdictions throughout Canada;


Transparent — full information on the process for credential recognition will be available prior to arrival in Canada. If requirements are not met, candidates will be informed of what to do; and


Rigorous — high standards for preserving public safety and security will not be compromised for any reason.


This pan-Canadian approach requires federal/provincial/territorial leadership and cooperation. An improved credential recognition process will result in skilled Canadians the country, thus ensuring that Canadian employers have access to a broad pool of talented workers.


Over the short term, work has begun on occupations facing critical shortages, for example doctors and nurses. Engineers are also part of the initial focus given the large influx of engineers to Canada each year.


We can and will do more. But we can’t do it all alone. That’s why it’s so heartening to see many professional and business organizations taking action to remove barriers as well. The Canadian Council for Human resources in the Environment Industry, for example, is developing a project to attract and recruit immigrants to work in the environment industry.


The Canadian Council of Professional Engineers has also begun a three-phase project to improve the models and approaches used by the engineering profession to recognize foreign engineering credentials. Both these initiatives are funded by Human Resources and Social Development with Citizenship and Immigration Canada taking part on the advisory committees.


Such projects help provide a needed foundation for our continued growth today and a key component to our prosperity tomorrow. But we need to go further. The Government announced in March of this year that it will provide $4 million over three years to improve licensing procedures for international medical graduates and to assist provinces and territories with the cost of assessing them.


The contribution of international medical graduates to our physician supply has been of benefit to Canada and will be of increasing benefit in the years to come. But we still need to go further.


Many newcomers identify access to language or skills training and education as an important consideration for whether they stay in a community or leave. These are important considerations for making Canada a truly inclusive society that values the contribution of each newcomer. We know that language ability is one of the key determinants of successful integration. We need to ensure that immigrants get the appropriate level of training.


Today, Citizenship and Immigration Canada is working with provinces and employers to develop and deliver enhanced labour market language training projects, on a cost-sharing basis. The projects will tell us which methods work best and help formulate a long-term strategy. As partners, we must ensure the appropriate infrastructures are in place to fully integrate foreign-trained skilled workers into Canada’s business, professional and social institutions.


Annual funding of $20 million for an Enhanced Language Training Initiative is a key component of the Government’s strategy to ensure the successful integration of immigrants into the economy and our communities.


Our partners include provinces, learning institutions and employers. They will help to develop and deliver labour market levels of language training, on a cost-sharing basis, to enable immigrants to find and retain jobs commensurate with their skills and experience.


The projects will include the development of language assessment and training tools for doctors, nurses, engineers and other professionals.


It is also important that immigrants have access to comprehensive and targeted information on occupational requirements, the labour market, settlement services, qualifications assessment and recognition and job search assistance, so they can make informed decisions about immigrating to Canada, including where they should settle.


Citizenship and Immigration Canada is working with other federal departments to develop a strategy to improve online information and services so that immigrants can prepare for Canada’s labour market and start the integration process even while they are abroad. This strategy will include partnerships with provinces, employers and other stakeholders.


Such projects help provide a needed foundation for our continued growth today and a key component for our prosperity tomorrow.


Businesses, governments, associations and many other stakeholders here today all have a critically important role to play in these efforts.


We need strong leadership, and we need strong partnerships to succeed. But succeed we must and succeed we will, if we are all willing to pull together.


This evening, I’ve spoken to you about the importance of immigration to our future labour requirements and national growth.


I’ve described some of the initiatives we are undertaking at the federal level, in partnership with others, to remove barriers to social and economic integration. But we in government can’t do the job alone, nor do we have all the answers.


The reality is that newcomers don’t just come to Canada. They settle in communities were all of us live, and they work in private and public sector enterprises from one of the country to the other. All of us in all regions of the country have a stake in these issues.


Businesses, governments at all levels, local communities, numerous stakeholders and committed organizations like the Canadian Hispanic Congress all have a critically important role to play in helping newcomers to adjust to our society and contribute fully to our life together.


We need partnerships, dialogue and collaboration in dealing with these challenges.


It is in that spirit that you have invited me here today, for which I thank you. And it is in that spirit, as we pull together, that we will succeed together.


Thank you.



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anonny:

(va tener que desculpr como escribo espanol... )

desafortunadamente, no vamos a saber en que queda este plan hasta el jueves de esta semana.  Si el plan para poner a un nuevo govierno es aprovado, el plan para legalisar a los trabajadores ilegales no va pasar.  Van a tener que empesar de nuevo otra vez y va tomar mucho tiempo para aprovar de nuevo.  Asi que tenemos que esperar que lo del jueves no pase y que sigan el procedimiento para aprovar este plan para legalizar los trabajadores.


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" Are you kidding??? Now I agree that Canada is alot better than the dictatorships and war-torn countries our parents escaped but since when is it democratical to have tuition fees that most of the country's young ppl can't afford and/or will spend most of their life trying to pay back. What's democratical about paying between 17-25% of my annual  income and never seeing any benifits from that. How come in Jane & Weston the City doesn't clear the snow from side streets but in forest hill (Younge& lawerence) the City clears the snow from side streets AND send a bob-cat to clear the side walks also. Canada hasn't been a truelly democratical state since Pierre Trudeau was PM."


Fine, you want to know about democracy?


We are told we have democracy...and we belive it...once we believe it, they know that they will have what they want from us, for the sake of this 'democracy'...we are told that we have the right to vote...for what? because it's the democratic thing to do? when in the end after all the votes are counted, all the promises they made are broken? Democracy is a lie. Sure Canada has a few perks we take advantage off, and in fact take for granted at times..what do you say about that Karla Homolka thing? When she gets out and if she can't get a job guess who's supporting her? We are, the citizens through welfare...our tax dollars in her pocket.


Yeah i know there are a lot of screwd up laws...but for what i have and for what my family has accomplished in this country, to me, it's heaven sent. I would have never had these opportunities in my country. Yeah it does suck that tuition will end up being with you the rest of your life, but guess what, you can't expect the city/country to give you everything. I worked and sacrificed myself to pay back...and i did. I makes you appreciate education more.


and yeah it does suck that a good chunk of your paycheck goes to taxes...but if you want public services, guess what? you have to pay hun...nothing in life will ever be free.


So yes, i agree and disagree with you on some things....but just because this is a great country, it doesn't mean there will be down sides along the road.


I don't like paying taxes, i think the government is a crook. But what can i do? try to cheat it? it will only come back and hit me harder in the a$$...so i take it day by day...and only focus on the positve....it's hard, but i get less ulcers ...


 



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I got this from the Toronto Hispano web site :







Cada vez más cerca al programa para trabajadores indocumentados









 


HABLEMOS DE INMIGRACION:
Confusión con respecto a programa para trabajadores indocumentados


PREGUNTA: Somos un grupo de amigos que trabajamos en la construcción y estamos esperando que nos den la posibilidad de tener papeles. Se escuchan muchas cosas y estamos muy confundidos. ¿Puede clarificarnos qué está pasando con el programa para los ilegales de la construcción?

RESPUESTA: Entiendo su confusión. De hecho en estos momentos reina un aura de inseguridad con respecto a la posibilidad de un programa especial para legalizar a los trabajadores de la construcción. La confusión se ha creado básicamente porque muchas personas que no tienen la información correcta acerca de las negociaciones que se están llevando a cabo entre la Coalición para la Legalización de los Trabajadores de la Construcción y el Gobierno, están hablando del tema. Los acuerdos logrados en las negociaciones no se han publicado aún. Hay personas dando conferencias dando a entender que no hay ninguna negociación y que son solo rumores y otras, tratando de tomar ventaja del momento de ansiedad diciendo que sí hay un programa y comenzando a beneficiarse monetariamente de la desesperación de la gente.

La Coalición, de la cual soy parte, se reunió con el gobierno en tres oportunidades y se ha llegado a acuerdos importantes. En estos momentos se está preparando un documento que clarifica las responsabilidades que tendrá la Coalición con respecto al procesamiento de los indocumentados. La Coalición seguirá funcionando una vez anunciado el programa y estará directamente involucrada en el procesamiento de los casos.

Si bien es cierto que hasta el momento no es más que un proyecto y las personas afectadas no deben hacer nada hasta que no haya un anuncio oficial por el Ministro de Inmigración, en las negociaciones se han acordado puntos importantes que voy a mencionar. El programa se dividirá en dos partes; la regularización del estatus inmigratorio y la residencia. En el momento de ser anunciado el programa, los trabajadores podrán hacer una solicitud para ser incluidos en el programa. El trabajador deberá presentar una solicitud para un permiso de trabajo y un permiso de residencia temporal (permiso ministerial) para él y para sus familiares que se encuentren en el país. Estos permisos tendrán dos años de validez. En ese momento tendrán que probar que están trabajando en construcción, que no tienen problemas de salud y que no tienen problemas criminales. Luego habrá otro procedimiento en el cual las personas podrán hacer su trámite para la obtención de la residencia permanente.

La residencia permanente no será automática. Habrá un proceso de selección. Las personas deberán probar que están establecidas en Canadá y que han hecho esfuerzos por aprender el inglés o francés, que han tomado cursos de capacitación y han participado activamente en la vida Canadiense. Deberán demostrar que aunque no son ciudadanos legales sí se han comportados como tales.

La Coalición está terminando los últimos requisitos impuestos por el gobierno y se espera que en cualquier momento el Ministro dé el anuncio. De la única forma que el programa podría ser eliminado sería con la caída del gobierno liberal antes del anuncio. Las personas afectadas deben seguir esperando. Cuando haya un anuncio oficial, la información saldrá en todos los medios de comunicación Canadienses y étnicos. Ese será el momento para comenzar el trámite.

Para aliviar la confusión que reina en éstos momentos la Coalición ha organizado dos sesiones informativas que se llevarán a cabo el viernes 6 de mayo 2005 en el Sports Palace que está ubicado en el 4100 de Chesswood Rd. El local está situado al norte de Sheppard entre Keele y Allen Rd. Las sesiones serán de 7:00 a 8:30 y de 8:00 a 9:30 pm. y son completamente gratis. Para mayor información por favor contactarse con Juan Sierra al (416)854-6534 o con el Congreso Hispano Canadiense al (416)447-7264. En esas sesiones tendrán la oportunidad de hablar con personas directamente involucradas con el programa y podrán recibir respuestas a sus inquietudes.

Congreso Hispano Canadiense



 



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Chale Tanga: ESTA ES PARTE DEL ARTICULO QUE SALIO EN EL TORONTO STAR EL DIA 16 DE MAYO



A plan to legalize thousands of undocumented workers in Canada's underground economy would be in jeopardy if the Liberal minority government falls as a result of a non-confidence vote on Thursday, says Immigration Minister Joe Volpe.

The Toronto MP has already signed off on a final draft of the long-anticipated "regularization" plan, which is now "in the queue" for the cabinet's feedback and approval — provided there isn't an election call.

The issue leaves in limbo many of the 100,000 to 200,000 undocumented workers living under the radar in Canada, as well as employers facing shortages of the skills some of them bring.

"Here we're now at the 11th hour because the opposition is trying its best to create a controversial environment, and we are faced with a situation where all this hard work may go asunder," Volpe told the Toronto Star from Ottawa. "We're bringing things closer to a point where some decisions could be made."

Juan Sierra, a construction-union outreach worker, said he has fielded calls from hundreds of undocumented construction workers since Conservative leader Stephen Harper vowed publicly to bring down the Liberal government in mid-April.

They're worried the plan to legalize their status in Canada will go down, too.

"They are really freaked out by the prospect," said Sierra, of the Labourers' International Union of North America. "Their hopes were so high because Volpe has promised that this is a priority for the government. If nothing happens, their hopes would be destroyed totally."

According to Vilma Filici, president of the Canadian Hispanic Congress, part of a community coalition that has been negotiating with the government, the two sides had a consensus on the basic plan.

"We are very concerned that this (plan) won't happen if there is a vote of non-confidence by the opposition in the parliament," Filici said. "With a new government, we'd be back to the drawing board again and start from scratch."

Filici fears a Conservative government could dump the plan as, he says, the Tories tend to view undocumented workers more as security risks than as potentially valuable contributors to Canadian society.

Daniel Castro, his wife and their two teenage sons from Argentina are among those living in limbo. The family arrived here in early 2001 and had their refugee claim rejected last May.

Together they earn $6,000 a month, which they take in cash. Savings are stashed under a mattress because they're afraid to keep a bank account. They don't get to know neighbours because they move every few months to keep ahead of immigration authorities.

When eldest son Walter was robbed of his pay at gunpoint near Jane St. and Lawrence Ave. W. last summer, the 18-year-old didn't dare go to the police.

"Our life is between work and home, but we are grateful when we see everyone home in one piece at the end of the day," Daniel Castro said. "We pray the family will still be together the next day."

Their lives are typical among those in the underground economy, who do jobs Canadians often consider undesirable, particularly in construction, the hotel and hospitality industries, domestic help and general labour. They don't qualify for social assistance or employment insurance, and if they get sick they pay for care out of pocket.

They literally live their lives out of a suitcase — often for years — fearing every moment that they will be stopped on the street by police and deported from Canada. Authorities sometimes sweep down on construction sites, where undocumented workers help fill a shortage of skilled workers.

A string of broken promises by Volpe's predecessors, who never seemed to stick around long enough to deal with the issue, has left the underground community skeptical of the government's goodwill.

In March 2003, then immigration minister Denis Coderre told civic leaders in Toronto he was keen to work with employers to help solve the shortage of legal skilled workers and deal with undocumented immigrants. "We have to make sure that every partnership will work," he said at the time.

Judy Sgro also met with community and trades groups during her 14-month tenure in the job to discuss "regularizing" undocumented workers.

Nothing was delivered.

SI ALGUIEN TIENE MAS IMFORMACION, ESCRIBA EN ESPANOL.
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" It's a democratic country"


Are you kidding??? Now I agree that Canada is alot better than the dictatorships and war-torn countries our parents escaped but since when is it democratical to have tuition fees that most of the country's young ppl can't afford and/or will spend most of their life trying to pay back.


What's democratical about paying between 17-25% of my annual  income and never seeing any benifits from that.


How come in Jane & Weston the City doesn't clear the snow from side streets but in forest hill (Younge& lawerence) the City clears the snow from side streets AND send a bob-cat to clear the side walks also.


Canada hasn't been a truelly democratical state since Pierre Trudeau was PM.



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"OTRA IMPORTANTE INFORMACION SALE EL "TORONTO STAR" CON RESPECTO A LA GENTE ILEGAL O INDOCUMENTADO O SIN STATUS, SI ALGUNO TIENE INFORMACION, HAGALO SABER POR EL FORO, ES MUY IMPORTANTE PARA LAS FAMILIAS O PERSONA QUE ESTA EN ESTA SITUACION, SI LO PUEDES HACER EN ESPANOL, MEJOR, HAY GENTE MAYOR O CON POCO TIEMPO EN EL PAIS QUE ENTRA AL FORO. GRACIAS"

lo busce pero no lo encontre...
es en le Toronto Star de ahora o de aller?

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Well, it's fine i think. It's a democratic country, and as such they have to actually give equal opportunity to everyone. I know now there will always be the fear of terrorism because of past events, and precautions have to be taken. Which to some, might end up being a disadvantage.


The arrival to a foreing country is a chance or hope to find open doors to opportunity. It has gotten harder...some, i'd say about 80% of the landed immigrants here, deserve to stay...deserve a chance...because of them, Canada is a beautiful country. It's the bad apples we'd have to take care of.



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OTRA IMPORTANTE INFORMACION SALE EL "TORONTO STAR"


CON RESPECTO A LA GENTE ILEGAL O INDOCUMENTADO O SIN STATUS,


SI ALGUNO TIENE INFORMACION, HAGALO SABER POR EL FORO, ES MUY IMPORTANTE PARA LAS FAMILIAS O PERSONA QUE ESTA EN ESTA SITUACION, SI LO PUEDES HACER EN ESPANOL, MEJOR, HAY GENTE MAYOR O CON POCO TIEMPO EN EL PAIS QUE ENTRA AL FORO.


GRACIAS



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" I totally agree with you.  Pobres Illegales, they get nothing, but they don't care at leat they are here right. Yesi  "

that's how a lot of our parents, tios, abuelos, primos made it here... maybe even some of ourselves.  It's a choice that many people take cause it still is so much better than being back in the old country... Also, when many ilegales get landed imigrant or some kind of legal status, they can (and many do) take advantage of the system - such as welfare, etc... it's a trade off for the government, I think... in the long run, it helps the country grow.

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"I've always thought that government doesn't mind having illegals here. why?? They pay taxes and get nothing in return. They don't get health care, education, community services or anything like that, yet they pay taxes like every other canadian, even if they get paid cash, they still purchase things and pay sales taxes. "


I totally agree with you.  Pobres Illegales, they get nothing, but they don't care at leat they are here right.


Yesi 



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I've always thought that government doesn't mind having illegals here. why?? They pay taxes and get nothing in return. They don't get health care, education, community services or anything like that, yet they pay taxes like every other canadian, even if they get paid cash, they still purchase things and pay sales taxes.



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Que opinan de este articulo que se publico en casi todos los periodicos locales.


Si alguien sabe mas de este caso y de buena fuente, le agradeceria la informacion, su opinion ayuda de mucho !! a miles de padres de familia que no se pueden estableser en este pais


gracias


 In the next week, he's slated to announce an agreement to give permanent status to as many as 10,000 Toronto construction workers who are here illegally but haven't been kicked out because of a shortage of skilled labour.


esta articulo esta en el Toronto SUN del dia 19 de Abril del 2005



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