I need your advise!!!

Cordoba_D · Guru

RE: I need your advise!!!

Cordoba_D · Guru

short girls can be cute to a certain extent.....but 5'1 is waaaaaay too short now...i rarely see tall latinas....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 16:54, 2007-11-07

Sweetness · Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

no im not tanned but not super duper dark....its jus kinda wack when people here think that all of us must look alike......indio pointy nose and all that....
my other bros and family r lighter then me...

then i get the ohhhh you dont look ecuadorian!.....tell me how the **** does that make sense!!!!lol

Maybe you should ask those who make those statements?

@Chi: I'm 5'2" and that's average

in Ecuador.

Are you serious you are 5'2?? WOW this is friggin SHORT!!!!

Okay so my ex's dad was on the border of being a midget. He was like 5 feet I swear. He was from Ecuador too My ex was on the short side too. If my heels were super high I would actually be taller I am sooooo glad my husband is WAY taller than me.

Nothing wrong with being short either!

@Sweetness: I know what you mean. I think a lot of people say something like "eres mas necio que un Indio" - or something along those lines. I have heard it from relatives and friends.

lol...I know what you mean, cus back home they say "tenia que ser indio" Or something like that...lol we don't mean to be racist, but we know for a fact that indigenous peeps don't buy the **** that we sell them that easily...lol...they're smart if you really look at it...lol smile

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

no im not tanned but not super duper dark....its jus kinda wack when people here think that all of us must look alike......indio pointy nose and all that....
my other bros and family r lighter then me...

then i get the ohhhh you dont look ecuadorian!.....tell me how the **** does that make sense!!!!lol

Maybe you should ask those who make those statements?

@Chi: I'm 5'2" and that's average

in Ecuador.

Are you serious you are 5'2?? WOW this is friggin SHORT!!!!

Okay so my ex's dad was on the border of being a midget. He was like 5 feet I swear. He was from Ecuador too My ex was on the short side too. If my heels were super high I would actually be taller I am sooooo glad my husband is WAY taller than me.

Nothing wrong with being short either!

@Sweetness: I know what you mean. I think a lot of people say something like "eres mas necio que un Indio" - or something along those lines. I have heard it from relatives and friends.

Sweetness · Guru

PRINCESSA wrote:

@ Sweetness - no worries girl, I was just kidding about the midget. Althou I don't mind my height at all, it suits me. but I hate it when I can't reach a cup. LOL

LOL I'm not that tall myself...I'm 5"5, but I was talking about the mandem lol biggrin

...Like I said on girls being short is cute! smile

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

@ Sweetness - no worries girl, I was just kidding about the midget. Althou I don't mind my height at all, it suits me.

but I hate it when I can't reach a cup. LOL

Chilenita · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

no im not tanned but not super duper dark....its jus kinda wack when people here think that all of us must look alike......indio pointy nose and all that....
my other bros and family r lighter then me...

then i get the ohhhh you dont look ecuadorian!.....tell me how the **** does that make sense!!!!lol

Maybe you should ask those who make those statements?

@Chi: I'm 5'2" and that's average

in Ecuador.

Are you serious you are 5'2?? WOW this is friggin SHORT!!!!

Okay so my ex's dad was on the border of being a midget. He was like 5 feet I swear. He was from Ecuador too blankstare

My ex was on the short side too. If my heels were super high I would actually be taller bleh

I am sooooo glad my husband is WAY taller than me.

Sweetness · Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Nothing wrong with wearing a poncho. Nothing wrong with being indigenous. Nothing wrong with being super dark. And SPECIALLY nothing wrong with being LGigolo!

-- Edited by LGigolo at 16:11, 2007-11-07

I guess using the term "indio" wasn't right, cus part of my familia is indigenous and European, but back home we use the term "indio" as someone being stubborn...it's just and expression...but yeah you are soooo right. smile

LGigolo · Comandante

Cordoba_D wrote:

no im not tanned but not super duper dark....its jus kinda wack when people here think that all of us must look alike......indio pointy nose and all that....
my other bros and family r lighter then me...

then i get the ohhhh you dont look ecuadorian!.....tell me how the **** does that make sense!!!!lol

Maybe you should ask those who make those statements?

@Chi: I'm 5'2" and that's average

in Ecuador.

Cordoba_D · Guru

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 16:21, 2007-11-07

Cordoba_D · Guru

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall

lol 5'2 is midget sized.....alot of latinas here r that height even latinos...
5'8 is still considered tall average....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:31, 2007-11-07
I guess in latino world you are tall then

I know in Ecuador you are tall that is for sure

actually alot of latinos here r short as hell havent u noticed?.......seriously tho people never assume im ecuadorian cause of the common stereotype that we r all indigenas ...with ponchos short and super dark jus like gigolo

Well I admit that you are not short!

You are not white though

no im not tanned but not super duper dark....its jus kinda wack when people here think that all of us must look alike......indio pointy nose and all that....
my other bros and family r lighter then me...

then i get the ohhhh you dont look ecuadorian!.....tell me how the **** does that make sense!!!! hmm

lol

LGigolo · Comandante

Cordoba_D wrote:

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now its 100% confirmed that we both came across eachother at some point....i kinda had an idea who u were...now even more....

see ya at the ecua soccer matches at motivos and plaza!b!tch

It's possible - I know you by pictures, but never recall seeing you around. Been to both places for the games.

Chilenita · Comandante

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall

lol 5'2 is midget sized.....alot of latinas here r that height even latinos...
5'8 is still considered tall average....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:31, 2007-11-07
I guess in latino world you are tall then

I know in Ecuador you are tall that is for sure

actually alot of latinos here r short as hell havent u noticed?.......seriously tho people never assume im ecuadorian cause of the common stereotype that we r all indigenas ...with ponchos short and super dark jus like gigolo

Well I admit that you are not short!

You are not white though weirdface

Cordoba_D · Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Nothing wrong with wearing a poncho. Nothing wrong with being indigenous. Nothing wrong with being super dark. And SPECIALLY nothing wrong with being LGigolo!

-- Edited by LGigolo at 16:11, 2007-11-07

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now its 100% confirmed that we both came across eachother at some point....i kinda had an idea who u were...now even more....

see ya at the ecua soccer matches at motivos and plaza!b!tch biggrin

LGigolo · Comandante

Nothing wrong with wearing a poncho. Nothing wrong with being indigenous. Nothing wrong with being super dark. And SPECIALLY nothing wrong with being LGigolo!

-- Edited by LGigolo at 16:11, 2007-11-07

Cordoba_D · Guru

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall

lol 5'2 is midget sized.....alot of latinas here r that height even latinos...
5'8 is still considered tall average....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:31, 2007-11-07
I guess in latino world you are tall then

I know in Ecuador you are tall that is for sure

actually alot of latinos here r short as hell havent u noticed?.......seriously tho people never assume im ecuadorian cause of the common stereotype that we r all indigenas ...with ponchos short and super dark jus like gigolo

Cordoba_D · Guru

Sweetness wrote:

my man wouldn't mind me calling you papi,

dammm what a f***ed way of thinking

ladies and gents tell me something.....

would u feel comfortable if your b/f or g/f starts calling someone else a friend for example "papi" or "mami" hmm

.......i as sure helll wouldnt like it.....id be like 'hmmmmm interesting confiansitas u two have"

i remember once when i was dating a girl back then...i saw another friend and i accidently said "yo mami how u been" holy snap! i almost got slapped in the face....she gave me WTF look? r u two just friends?..

i dunno i find it a lil disrespectful thats all.....i would only use those words like mami chulita etc etc..to the girl im dating... biggrin

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:
I guess in latino world you are tall then

I know in Ecuador you are tall that is for sure

Chilenita · Comandante

Cordoba_D wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall

lol 5'2 is midget sized.....alot of latinas here r that height even latinos...
5'8 is still considered tall average....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:31, 2007-11-07

I guess in latino world you are tall then hmm

I know in Ecuador you are tall that is for sure biggrin

Sweetness · Guru

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...WELL... I'm just guesstamating, cus my man is 6"2
2) we never met...if you're the original Dannyboy...then yes we did...trust me...I never...ever...forget a face!
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?I got sooo pissed cus this is a serious matter, and I truly wanted your advise, and not those of a joker!
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!You're right, but I meant "INDIO" in the sense that you are stubborn...cus in my country when someone calls you an "INDIO" It means that you are stuborn!!!
get a reality check!THE only one who needs a reality check is you, cus papi, I am younger than you, and I am 1 million times more mature then your dumbass WILL EVER BE!!!
thank you

Hey ! i dont think your novio will appreciate you calling me papi

se ve nomas que eres diferent que las demas latinas asi veo!
there is only one original Danny Cordova....los demas pura feca nomas..

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:45, 2007-11-07

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:46, 2007-11-07

You know what I see no point in talking to you...and no, my man wouldn't mind me calling you papi, cus he's not the jealous type and trust me...just like I'm not the jealoous type, and trust him... I also, don't mind him calling the next girl mami...It doesn't mean anything to me...Then again look at whom I am talking too...later papi...lol

LGigolo · Comandante

Sweetness wrote:
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!You're right, but I meant "INDIO" in the sense that you are stubborn...cus in my country when someone calls you an "INDIO" It means that you are stuborn!!!

C'mon now Sweetness - calling Dany an "indio" IS IN FACT A VERY BAD INSULT.

Poor indios! How can you even compare them to Dany! weirdface

Cordoba_D · Guru

Sweetness wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...WELL... I'm just guesstamating, cus my man is 6"2
2) we never met...if you're the original Dannyboy...then yes we did...trust me...I never...ever...forget a face!
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?I got sooo pissed cus this is a serious matter, and I truly wanted your advise, and not those of a joker!
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!You're right, but I meant "INDIO" in the sense that you are stubborn...cus in my country when someone calls you an "INDIO" It means that you are stuborn!!!
get a reality check!THE only one who needs a reality check is you, cus papi, I am younger than you, and I am 1 million times more mature then your dumbass WILL EVER BE!!!
thank you

Hey ! i dont think your novio will appreciate you calling me papi

se ve nomas que eres diferent que las demas latinas asi veo! biggrin

there is only one original Danny Cordova....los demas pura feca nomas..

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:45, 2007-11-07

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:46, 2007-11-07

Sweetness · Guru

PRINCESSA wrote:

Not nice, I'm 5.1" & I'm NO Midget. LOL

Sweetheart I only meant him as a man...in girls being between 5"00 and 5"6 is cute...so don't take it personal...cus I was only talking to Danny! smile

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

Not nice, I'm 5.1" & I'm NO Midget. LOL

Sweetness · Guru

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...WELL... I'm just guesstamating, cus my man is 6"2
2) we never met...if you're the original Dannyboy...then yes we did...trust me...I never...ever...forget a face!
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?I got sooo pissed cus this is a serious matter, and I truly wanted your advise, and not those of a joker!
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!You're right, but I meant "INDIO" in the sense that you are stubborn...cus in my country when someone calls you an "INDIO" It means that you are stuborn!!!
get a reality check!THE only one who needs a reality check is you, cus papi, I am younger than you, and I am 1 million times more mature then your dumbass WILL EVER BE!!!
thank you

Cordoba_D · Guru

Chilenita wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall

lol 5'2 is midget sized.....alot of latinas here r that height even latinos...

5'8 is still considered tall average....

-- Edited by Cordoba_D at 15:31, 2007-11-07

Chilenita · Comandante

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..
1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...
2) we never met
3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?
4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!
get a reality check!
thank you

Wait I am CONFUSED!!! I had more than a few people tell me that you were tall????? 5'8 isn't tall weirdface

Cordoba_D · Guru

Sweetness wrote:
and your 5"2 105lbs can't

you are confused to the bone..

1) im not 5'2 ...5'8 to be exact...

2) we never met

3) i was just joking why do you get so pissed?

4) whats with the indio comment? for someone who defends ethincities and is all about non racial jokes.....you sure as hell did contradict yourself!!!

get a reality check!

thank you

Cordoba_D · Guru

El Mismo wrote:

hey, this is no joke, here is someone that sincerely cares for someone and its a big pain that she is going through, knowing that a person she love might get lost in this demoralize society.........Danny, once you go through a great pain that will be the day that you will open your eyes and really see what this world is all about.

Lo que tu siembras oy, cosecharas man~ana.

ya im jus messing around....i gave my opinion before already...

but seriously its expected that if u come tell a personal problem on an online forum you wont really get the answer your looking for....

but u know sometimes my messages come across and can be misinterpreted in a different manner..but its always the truth! aww

Sweetness · Guru

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

To Danny the **** I am nothing like her

thats whats they all say

Listen I don't need to prove myself to a piece of **** like you, but I know what you look like....infact I have bumped into you before...and be sure that I will confront your stupid ass for what you said...and your 5"2 105lbs can't and won't compare too my bf....whos fist, you will be tasting!!! I use to like you, and even defend your stupid a$$, but not anymore indio de ****!!!!! @cHILE I understand, but like I said you have not been through what my mom has been through...you're just starting out...you don't know what it is to deal with a teen, cus you're not there yet...I respect your opinion though...I just feel that I need to help my mom through this a bit more, cus she's not use to it. You just had a child and I can say that once your kid hits her teens...you will not only be saying different, but be thinking differently too. smile

LGigolo · Comandante

El Mismo wrote:
Lo que tu siembras oy, cosecharas man~ana.

Asi de rapido? How come marihuana growers don't get that fast of a return on their "siembras"?

El Mismo · Guru

hey, this is no joke, here is someone that sincerely cares for someone and its a big pain that she is going through, knowing that a person she love might get lost in this demoralize society.........Danny, once you go through a great pain that will be the day that you will open your eyes and really see what this world is all about.

Lo que tu siembras oy, cosecharas man~ana.

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Cordoba_D wrote:

Motown Junkie wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

To Danny the **** I am nothing like her

thats whats they all say

You don't realize it was the "fake" account that she directed her comment to????

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 14:55, 2007-11-07

no i was the second one to reply go look^^

Aaaaahhhhhh...............

I suppose it would've helped to look at page 1!!!!

Very well then. Carry on.

LGigolo · Comandante

Sweetness wrote:

Well, thanks for the advise, but I have to say that the best advise that I got from all of you was from lgig and el mismo...

:happydance:

Good luck, Sweetness!

Cordoba_D · Guru

Motown Junkie wrote:

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

To Danny the **** I am nothing like her

thats whats they all say

You don't realize it was the "fake" account that she directed her comment to????

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 14:55, 2007-11-07

no i was the second one to reply go look^^

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Cordoba_D wrote:

Sweetness wrote:

To Danny the **** I am nothing like her

thats whats they all say

You don't realize it was the "fake" account that she directed her comment to????

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 14:55, 2007-11-07

Cordoba_D · Guru

Sweetness wrote:

To Danny the **** I am nothing like her

thats whats they all say yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn

Chilenita · Comandante

Sweetness wrote:

Well, thanks for the advise, but I have to say that the best advise that I got from all of you was from lgig and el mismo. I've tried what both of you have said, and I will continue to do it. princess you have no kids, so you don't know what it's like...no ofense. My sis is a good kid, but she lets her friends influence her too much. To Danny the **** I am nothing like her, I am the role model for her. I have a steady relationship with my man for the past 7 years and a job, so she's not getting it from me. I feel that the problem is that, my dad is not around. Everyone needs a fatherly figure in their life whether they like it or not. My mom is a single mother of 3 and I feel that my parents divorce has messed her up. @Chile I can understand what you are saying, but you have your partners support...my mom does not. When my dad was around, he was the one that dealt with the discipline around the house, and once he left my mom didn't know how to handle it, cus she never did it before...so since I take after my dad in attitude...she let me handle it, but it's hard for me cus she's not my kid...all I can say is wait till you get divorced and have no help from your hubby...it ****s you up...anyway thanks to all of you for the advise...I will take it into account.

I didn't mean to offend you or your mom sweetness. I know many single moms and the fact that your partner is not around doesn't mean you should give up at any point on your children. You said she gave up. If I end up without a husband things might be harder in a few ways like financially and stuff but you must overcome for the sake of your kids. My girl is the most important thing in my life and NOTHING a man does can change that.

Sweetness · Guru

Well, thanks for the advise, but I have to say that the best advise that I got from all of you was from lgig and el mismo. I've tried what both of you have said, and I will continue to do it. princess you have no kids, so you don't know what it's like...no ofense. My sis is a good kid, but she lets her friends influence her too much. To Danny the **** I am nothing like her, I am the role model for her. I have a steady relationship with my man for the past 7 years and a job, so she's not getting it from me. I feel that the problem is that, my dad is not around. Everyone needs a fatherly figure in their life whether they like it or not. My mom is a single mother of 3 and I feel that my parents divorce has messed her up. @Chile I can understand what you are saying, but you have your partners support...my mom does not. When my dad was around, he was the one that dealt with the discipline around the house, and once he left my mom didn't know how to handle it, cus she never did it before...so since I take after my dad in attitude...she let me handle it, but it's hard for me cus she's not my kid...all I can say is wait till you get divorced and have no help from your hubby...it ****s you up...anyway thanks to all of you for the advise...I will take it into account.

Chilenita · Comandante

PRINCESSA wrote:

Wow it's gone long. LOL

Again anything in exagerattion is bad, wrong, but no one is saying that u need to beat ur child to death for him/her to listen, if any1 thought that then they are stupid.

I Know wat I'm saying & know how I was raised.....with a belt, spank, etc. if I misbehave. I've also seen other kids that are raised the simple way, like time out & all that crap & I LAUGH, hey if that's ur "right" way, "proper" way of thinking u should raise ur child, that's fine, go for it, like X said it's ur kids, make no diffrence to us, but time will say & then we'll laugh.

So you will laugh because if I don't spank or use a belt on my child she will become a menace to society?

Not everyone hits their children. Not all children who were hit are great citizens.

Chilenita · Comandante

PRINCESSA wrote:

I Know wat I'm saying & know how I was raised.....with a belt, spank, etc. if I misbehave. I've also seen other kids that are raised the simple way, like time out & all that crap & I LAUGH, hey if that's ur "right" way, "proper" way of thinking u should raise ur child, that's fine, go for it, like X said it's ur kids, make no diffrence to us, but time will say & then we'll laugh.

I don't think anyone thinks you meant that you would beat your kid to a bloody pulp. blankstare

Anyway don't you think that your parents hit you because that is the way they were raised? In other words "old school" ? Don't you think over time people learn to do things a better way? Don't you think there is a slight chance that they hit you because they really didn't know any other way of parenting or getting a message across because that is the way they were taught? Do you truly believe that there is NO WAY to get a message across to a child other than by the belt or a smack?

Kids learn all kinds of things on a daily basis that they never forget with no hitting being involved.

LGigolo · Comandante

PRINCESSA wrote:

@ LG - LOL why?

NVM - I was yoking only~

ahora ya no te pegan, como que ahora te halan de las pestañas biggrin

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

@ LG - LOL why?

LGigolo · Comandante

PRINCESSA wrote:

Wow it's gone long. LOL

Again anything in exagerattion is bad, wrong, but no one is saying that u need to beat ur child to death for him/her to listen, if any1 thought that then they are stupid.

I Know wat I'm saying & know how I was raised.....with a belt, spank, etc. if I misbehave. I've also seen other kids that are raised the simple way, like time out & all that crap & I LAUGH, hey if that's ur "right" way, "proper" way of thinking u should raise ur child, that's fine, go for it, like X said it's ur kids, make no diffrence to us, but time will say & then we'll laugh.

Now to answer Chilenitas question about: Getting no TV vs. a spank be more effective......Bulls_it in my opinion, u did that to me I would be laughing behind my parents back, cus it will go by ventually, but if I knew that my Dad will spank me, u sure hell know that 200% i wouldn't go there. Again it's all how u were raised & how u were brought up & I'm not trying to make one1 change their mind, but again I got mine set & no one will change it, not even pshcologist, teachers, childrens aid.

You must have been accidentally hit in the head a couple of times!

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

Wow it's gone long. LOL

Again anything in exagerattion is bad, wrong, but no one is saying that u need to beat ur child to death for him/her to listen, if any1 thought that then they are stupid.

I Know wat I'm saying & know how I was raised.....with a belt, spank, etc. if I misbehave. I've also seen other kids that are raised the simple way, like time out & all that crap & I LAUGH, hey if that's ur "right" way, "proper" way of thinking u should raise ur child, that's fine, go for it, like X said it's ur kids, make no diffrence to us, but time will say & then we'll laugh.

Now to answer Chilenitas question about: Getting no TV vs. a spank be more effective......Bulls_it in my opinion, u did that to me I would be laughing behind my parents back, cus it will go by ventually, but if I knew that my Dad will spank me, u sure hell know that 200% i wouldn't go there. Again it's all how u were raised & how u were brought up & I'm not trying to make one1 change their mind, but again I got mine set & no one will change it, not even pshcologist, teachers, childrens aid.

Chilenita · Comandante

Quixote wrote:

While physically harming a defenseless child is undesirable, I am not against the idea of physical discipline when it is warranted or when it is used as a last resort.

Furthermore, I think the degeneration of today's youth has more to do with parents spending less time with the children. I think divorces, deadbeat parents and time consuming careers contribute more to wayward kids than we like to admit.

I agree with this last part.

BTW when would you say physical discipline is warranted? I always wonder what would be reason enough to hit a child. hmm

When I had a dog I would have never hit him.

I just can't imagine hitting my baby ever for any reason.

My husband came from a place where hitting was VERY normal. I do admit it's been tough trying to get him to see things my way. blankstare

Quixote · Guru

While physically harming a defenseless child is undesirable, I am not against the idea of physical discipline when it is warranted or when it is used as a last resort.

Furthermore, I think the degeneration of today's youth has more to do with parents spending less time with the children. I think divorces, deadbeat parents and time consuming careers contribute more to wayward kids than we like to admit.

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:
my comment about "make love not war" was just to pin point the time that they grew up in, all this child psychologists u speak of are people that where influence by this times......like I said before there is a fine line of using spanking as a tool to discipline and not as a tool for violance towards ur kid.

let me put it this way for u, there is a fine line of using verbal communication as a tool to discipline and not as a tool for verbal abuse towards ur kid, and remember verbal abuse can be a lot worst than physical, yes u might feel pain for a day or 2 but verbal abuse will always be with u.

and thats when u need all this child psychologists to help them

~X

I agree with there being a fine line between it going from physical disipline and physical abuse of a child as well as a fine line between verbal communication and verbal abuse. It's just a line that a parent should really be careful not to cross - and in the heat of the anger and frustration toward his/her child, the parent must have self control not to over do it.

I'll ask you the same thing. When your child does something wrong and you hit them....what lesson is it that you are teaching?

Next time you do it I'll hit you again?

For the record, I was not admiting online that I hit my child. I was just saying that I don't disagree with a dose of corporal punishment. I have used the "I'll take you to the washroom and give you a cold water face wash technique and that worked for a good while when she was 3-7... seems that as time went by and she got older, it's not really a big deal anymore.

Yes. Taking away stuff does do wonders at this age now (8) - done that too.

To answer your question, I guess when a parent is disiplining the child physically - the message may be, you better not do it again or else you getting physical disipline again. Fear of getting the same treatment again may be enough to discourage the same missbehaviour in the future.

I am not saying I don't get the points of the studies and how it is not necesary to physically disipline a child. I am also saying that I am not against the old school concepts to some degree. Obviously, not to the point to physically hurt or leave your kid marked from the punishment. I guess, for me, a combination of the two methods are fine. Maybe it has to do with how I was brought up and what I have experienced and learned along the way.

Danny416 · Regular

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I like young ****es like that

Chilenita · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:
my comment about "make love not war" was just to pin point the time that they grew up in, all this child psychologists u speak of are people that where influence by this times......like I said before there is a fine line of using spanking as a tool to discipline and not as a tool for violance towards ur kid.

let me put it this way for u, there is a fine line of using verbal communication as a tool to discipline and not as a tool for verbal abuse towards ur kid, and remember verbal abuse can be a lot worst than physical, yes u might feel pain for a day or 2 but verbal abuse will always be with u.

and thats when u need all this child psychologists to help them

~X

I agree with there being a fine line between it going from physical disipline and physical abuse of a child as well as a fine line between verbal communication and verbal abuse. It's just a line that a parent should really be careful not to cross - and in the heat of the anger and frustration toward his/her child, the parent must have self control not to over do it.

I'll ask you the same thing. When your child does something wrong and you hit them....what lesson is it that you are teaching?

Next time you do it I'll hit you again?