n we know how kids r the more u tell them no the more they want
actually yes i have walked into elementary schools... at both my kids schools they offer milk products, water, and juice in lieu of pop... they offer granola bars, fruits and candy in lieu of chocolate bars and chips. The highest items sold? milk and granola bars.. how do i know this.. i am part of the Parent Council at the school which makes the decisions on what should be offered to our kids. If the parents do not get involved in these decisions then who will?
I agree 100%
@Chale - LMAO
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actually yes i have walked into elementary schools... at both my kids schools they offer milk products, water, and juice in lieu of pop... they offer granola bars, fruits and candy in lieu of chocolate bars and chips. The highest items sold? milk and granola bars.. how do i know this.. i am part of the Parent Council at the school which makes the decisions on what should be offered to our kids. If the parents do not get involved in these decisions then who will?
OUCH! Dayum girl! check you out! Im never getting into an argument with you about elementary schools... you'd kick my butt
anywho... Kids are given choices. Parents should teach kids about making the RIGHT choices. The government doesnt control what your kid puts or does not put in his/her mouth. As a parent you should instill proper habbits in your kids. True that there is more technology available to our kids, but the sun still shines outside... there are still parks available to our kids... there are other activities besides those being offered by schools to enroll your kids in... and ultimately it is the PARENT/ADULT to make the choices for a little bitty kid... not the kid.
Mooooooooooo-na for president!
ps. @ Confu: We talking bout da kiddies, not dem darn teenagers wit dey loud music and dey sexually suggestive dancing. Music leads to dancing and dancing leads to ...... reggaetoni
n we know how kids r the more u tell them no the more they want
actually yes i have walked into elementary schools... at both my kids schools they offer milk products, water, and juice in lieu of pop... they offer granola bars, fruits and candy in lieu of chocolate bars and chips. The highest items sold? milk and granola bars.. how do i know this.. i am part of the Parent Council at the school which makes the decisions on what should be offered to our kids. If the parents do not get involved in these decisions then who will?
i agree with el mismo! I dont think the parents are the only ones to blame! I mean im sure we could all go on a power trip and buy all healthy stuff but some kids are just big and the obese ones well yeah the parents can be blamed but at the same time I would also blame the government! ok heres my stupid reasoning have any of you noticed that since most after school activties were cut down and most recreation centers were taken away and not funded by the government more kids have just taken it to going home (some to empty homes cuz the parents are working way too much and others its a single parent) and eating watching tv and video games or worse the computer had taken kids from socializing! So i cant say its the parents fault cuz they may feed them right but if you kid does not excersie i mean seriously they wont be skinny!!!
TO AN EXTENT I DO BLAME THE PARENTS BUT THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE 100% CUZ I LIVE WID LIL MAN AND I ALSO LIVE WITH A 17.....AS MUCH AS OUR PARENTS TRY TO TEACH US HOW WE SHOULD EAT ETC ETC ETC.....ONCE WE HIT OUR ADOLENCENSE LIFE WE MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS....AND AS MUCH AS WE ARGUE WITH OUR PARENTS.....WE TAKE OUR OWN INITIATIVE IN WHAT WE WANT TO EAT.....WITH THE HECTIC SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE HERE SOMETIMES ITS HARD TO MAKE MY BROTHER EAT A"HEALTHY" MEAL....
but this thread isn't about TEENAGERS... it's about children. There a TONS of KIDS (13 and under) that are obese. Once we become teenagers we do make our own decisions but those decisions aren't necessarily the right ones. The fundamentals should be taught to the kids so that when they become teenagers they're able to make sound decisions and if they don't, they'll learn from them.
TO AN EXTENT I DO BLAME THE PARENTS BUT THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE 100% CUZ I LIVE WID LIL MAN AND I ALSO LIVE WITH A 17.....AS MUCH AS OUR PARENTS TRY TO TEACH US HOW WE SHOULD EAT ETC ETC ETC.....ONCE WE HIT OUR ADOLENCENSE LIFE WE MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS....AND AS MUCH AS WE ARGUE WITH OUR PARENTS.....WE TAKE OUR OWN INITIATIVE IN WHAT WE WANT TO EAT.....WITH THE HECTIC SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE HERE SOMETIMES ITS HARD TO MAKE MY BROTHER EAT A"HEALTHY" MEAL....
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really u would blame the parents??? to an extent u are right but everyone is to blame....as much as we try to feed our children healthy stuff they are out there in the world meaning school or extra activites most of the days......have you been to a cafeteria in a highschool lately?? its full of junk food not only from vending machines to also the actual food that they serve......
Confu, that's why you try to instill good eating habits from the get-go. Kids learn everything (from eating habits to any other habits) from a very young age. Even their principles are taught to them from an incredibly early age. They say that by age two most kids will have formed their personality and it will stay with them till the day they die. I believe that. If as an adult they change their course, then that's not the parents' responsibility, but their own choice. You can only teach them so much and then let them go. Good eating habits are one of the thing YOU CAN teach them.
@ Boofy.. i understand about the grandparents.. yesterday with my son is a really good example. They spent the day at her house and when I went to pick them up, MIL was like Luna Jr ate FOUR brownies, a donut, a snack pack of timbits, croissants, mac and cheese and a large freezie. I almost lost it! I WAS LIKE WTF?!?!?!?!? And she was so proud of that... she just saw it has him getting a lot to eat ... I was like a LOT OF CRAP!!!!!!! So last night around 9pm, Luna Jr starts crying and complaining his tummy was hurting. It pissed me off even more. BAH! So hubby called his mom and was like WTF woman! GRRRRRRR!!!! My mom knows better than that. If she overfeeds them, at least its with chicken, tortillas, rice, salad, etc.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the sh*t he ate at MIL's house!. GGRRRRR
-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 10:44, 2007-07-13
UGH MIL's suck! At least I can tell my mom off.
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@ Boofy.. i understand about the grandparents.. yesterday with my son is a really good example. They spent the day at her house and when I went to pick them up, MIL was like Luna Jr ate FOUR brownies, a donut, a snack pack of timbits, croissants, mac and cheese and a large freezie. I almost lost it! I WAS LIKE WTF?!?!?!?!? And she was so proud of that... she just saw it has him getting a lot to eat ... I was like a LOT OF CRAP!!!!!!! So last night around 9pm, Luna Jr starts crying and complaining his tummy was hurting. It pissed me off even more. BAH! So hubby called his mom and was like WTF woman! GRRRRRRR!!!! My mom knows better than that. If she overfeeds them, at least its with chicken, tortillas, rice, salad, etc.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the sh*t he ate at MIL's house!. GGRRRRR
In the latin community sometimes the parents, and the parents parents, are to blame but they don't do it intentionally. How many times have you see or heard or done it yourself that you have to feed a kids as much as possible? I know my own mom and MIL worry that my kids don't "eat properly" because they're not chubby. We have a tendency to feed infants A LOT, especially within the latin community, and then the routine is set that way.
I do too blame the parents, but like I said, sometimes we don't mean to cause any harm to the kids. But it's true: if you don't buy it, kids won't eat it. If you don't take them to fast food places two or three days a week, then they won't eat it. Sometimes it breaks your heart to deny a child fast food, 'cause THEY DO enjoy it, and sometimes it takes a lot of work to provide three healthy meals a day, 'cause it's exhausting (especially for working moms)... but like everything that's good for you, IT'S WELL WORTH THE SACRIFICE (says the woman who has been eating ice cream twice a day for the past month).
Yes! I thought is was easy until I came back to work I feel so guilty when I give her the stuff in a jar...even though we go organic and choose the healthy jars I still feel horrible...luckily that is not often.
Grandparents are a BIG problem!!! My mom is constantly doing stuff behind my back. I had to lay down the law. I had to tell her that feeding Chile Jr whatever she wants is NOT an option. TREATS = FRUIT - ugh what is so hard to remember
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In the latin community sometimes the parents, and the parents parents, are to blame but they don't do it intentionally. How many times have you see or heard or done it yourself that you have to feed a kids as much as possible? I know my own mom and MIL worry that my kids don't "eat properly" because they're not chubby. We have a tendency to feed infants A LOT, especially within the latin community, and then the routine is set that way.
I do too blame the parents, but like I said, sometimes we don't mean to cause any harm to the kids. But it's true: if you don't buy it, kids won't eat it. If you don't take them to fast food places two or three days a week, then they won't eat it. Sometimes it breaks your heart to deny a child fast food, 'cause THEY DO enjoy it, and sometimes it takes a lot of work to provide three healthy meals a day, 'cause it's exhausting (especially for working moms)... but like everything that's good for you, IT'S WELL WORTH THE SACRIFICE (says the woman who has been eating ice cream twice a day for the past month).
@ Chile: Thats awesome! youre helping her be a healthy baby now, which in turn help her be a healthy adult later on.
I hate to see really overweight kids... it makes me feel bad for them. Imagine how they must feel at school or when kids make fun of them. Pobresitos.
She still has all her baby fat....she JUST turned one so I think that won't go until she starts to walk which is fine with me cuz I prefer her plumpy right now.
We do things like if she is going to have some pasta we make it whole wheat. When we cook for her with rice we try to ensure it's brown. Bread is ALWAYS multigrian or whole wheat. Treats are fruit. NO POP NO JUICE...ONLY WATER and she loves it. Since she has only ever had formula or water it's all she knows and she LOVES IT. We actually let her have some tropicana the other day for the first time and she went nuts so no more of that. Her doc says juice is USELESS even the healthy stuff. We are changing our habits as well...trying our best to lead by example and that isn't easy either. Now we need to get Mr. Chilenita to stop eating so much red meat
-- Edited by Chilenita at 10:04, 2007-07-13
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Parents are to blame I think unless the kid has some sort of thyroid condition or something.
My main concern when it comes to my daughter is what I feed her. It's the most important thing. We try our hardest to make sure she eats NOTHING but food that has good nutritional value. I guess if she gets any bad habits later on it will be because she does it on her own. We have total control right now so we are trying to ONLY give her heathly stuff in proper portions. We are very strict about grandparents giving her junk Juice is also a big NO NO. She only drinks water.
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Confu, i blame the parents too. Kids will learn propper/bad eating habits at home. It's also up to the parent to encourage the child to practice it out of it.
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Plus if u see they have a tendency to be BIG BONE, then keep them busy (after school sports, etc.), take them to a dietician & monitor him professionally, don't let the poor kid get sooooooo huge, to then worry or say my kids abese, now help. hat's crap
I agree. Its all part of taking care of your kids... you cant let a 2 year old weigh as much as an 8 year old does... thats unhealthy and potentially deadly to that child. As a parent you must monitor them, get them active and teach them fundamental eating habbits that will carry them on to a healthy adulthood
Plus if u see they have a tendency to be BIG BONE, then keep them busy (after school sports, etc.), take them to a dietician & monitor him professionally, don't let the poor kid get sooooooo huge, to then worry or say my kids abese, now help. hat's crap
Well even if your parents give you money for bus, etc. & u spend it on junk food that won't make u Obese, unless you also add junk food to ur everyday eating habits at home, osea the parents are to be blamed. Plus if your kids are at after school activities & u can't cook, well as the parent make the smart choice & either go home & cook or pick a restaurant that's somewat more healthy then a quicky Micky D's, see now in days parents are lazy & find the easy way out, that's a no, no.
really u would blame the parents??? to an extent u are right but everyone is to blame....as much as we try to feed our children healthy stuff they are out there in the world meaning school or extra activites most of the days......have you been to a cafeteria in a highschool lately?? its full of junk food not only from vending machines to also the actual food that they serve......
True... you cant really monitor what your kids eat 24/7... but what you can do, is teach kids the fundamentals of healthy eating and making healthy choices even in the most unhealthiest of places.
really u would blame the parents??? to an extent u are right but everyone is to blame....as much as we try to feed our children healthy stuff they are out there in the world meaning school or extra activites most of the days......have you been to a cafeteria in a highschool lately?? its full of junk food not only from vending machines to also the actual food that they serve......
And where do they get the money to BUY the food from the vending machine/cafeteria???
-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 15:47, 2007-07-12
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really u would blame the parents??? to an extent u are right but everyone is to blame....as much as we try to feed our children healthy stuff they are out there in the world meaning school or extra activites most of the days......have you been to a cafeteria in a highschool lately?? its full of junk food not only from vending machines to also the actual food that they serve......
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Below is an article on overweight kids, and the stigma that they face because of it. Read it at your leisure, if you want. But the overall message is that obese kids live a quality of life comparable to that of kids with cancer.
What are your thoughts? Whos to blame for child obesity? The child? The parent? Society? Technology?
North America is fast becoming a nation of fat as ses. What if any, is the solution to this problem?
Overweight kids face widespread stigma
July 12, 2007 12:54:45 AM PST
Overweight children are stigmatized by their peers as early as age 3 and even face bias from their parents and teachers, giving them a quality of life comparable to people with cancer, a new analysis concludes.
Youngsters who report teasing, rejection, bullying and other types of abuse because of their weight are two to three times more likely to report suicidal thoughts as well as to suffer from other health issues such as high blood pressure and eating disorders, researchers said.
"The stigmatization directed at obese children by their peers, parents, educators and others is pervasive and often unrelenting," researchers with Yale University and the University of Hawaii at Manatoa wrote in the July issue of Psychological Bulletin.
The paper was based on a review of all research on youth weight bias over the past 40 years, said lead author Rebecca M. Puhl of Yale's Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity.
It comes amid a growing worldwide epidemic of child obesity. By 2010, almost 50 percent of children in North America and 38 percent of children in the European Union will be overweight, the researchers said.
While programs to prevent childhood obesity are growing, more efforts are needed to protect overweight children from abuse, Puhl said.
"The quality of life for kids who are obese is comparable to the quality of life of kids who have cancer," Puhl said, citing one study. "These kids are facing stigma from everywhere they look in society, whether it's media, school or at home."
Even with a growing percentage of overweight people, the stigma shows no signs of subsiding, according to Puhl. She said television and other media continue to reinforce negative stereotypes.
"This is a form of bias that is very socially acceptable," Puhl said. "It is rarely challenged; it's often ignored."
The stigmatization of overweight children has been documented for decades. When children were asked to rank photos of children as friends in a 1961 study, the overweight child was ranked last.
Children as young as 3 are more likely to consider overweight peers to be mean, stupid, ugly and sloppy.
A growing body of research shows that parents and educators are also biased against heavy children. In a 1999 study of 115 middle and high school teachers, 20 percent said they believed obese people are untidy, less likely to succeed and more emotional.
"Perhaps the most surprising source of weight stigma toward youths is parents," the report says.
Several studies showed that overweight girls got less college financial support from their parents than average weight girls. Other studies showed teasing by parents was common.
"It is possible that parents may take out their frustration, anger and guilt on their overweight child by adopting stigmatizing attitudes and behavior, such as making critical and negative comments toward their child," the authors wrote, suggesting further research is needed.
Lynn McAfee, 58, of Stowe, Pa., said that as an overweight child she faced troubles on all fronts.
"It was constantly impressed upon me that I wasn't going to get anywhere in the world if I was fat," McAfee said. "You hear it so often, it becomes the truth."
Her mother, who also was overweight, offered to buy her a mink coat when she was 8 to try to get her to lose weight even though her family was poor.
"I felt I was letting everybody down," she said.
Other children would try to run her down on bikes to see if she would bounce. She had a hard time getting on teams in the playground.
"Teachers did not stand up for me when I was teased," McAfee said.
A study in 2003 found that obese children had much lower quality of life scores on issues such as health, emotional and social well-being, and school functioning.
"An alarming finding of this research was that obese children had (quality of life) scores comparable with those of children with cancer," the researchers reported.
Sylvia Rimm, author of "Rescuing the Emotional Lives of Overweight Children," said her surveys of more than 5,000 middle school children reached similar conclusions.
"The overweight children felt less intelligent," Rimm said. "They felt less popular. They struggled from early on. They feel they are a different species."
Parents should emphasize a child's strengths, she said, and teachers should pair up students for activities instead of letting children pick their partners.
McAfee, who now works for the Council on Size and Weight Discrimination, said her childhood experiences even made her reluctant to see a doctor when she needed one. She recalled one doctor who said she looked like a gorilla and another who gave her painkillers and diet pills for what turned out to be mononucleosis.
"The amount of cruelty I've seen in people has changed me forever," McAfee said.
The Yale-Hawaii research report recommends more research to determine whether negative stereotypes lead to discriminatory behavior, citing evidence that overweight adults face discrimination. It also calls for studying ways to reduce stigma and negative attitudes toward overweight children.
"Weight-based discrimination is as important a problem as racial discrimination or discrimination against children with physical disabilities," the report concludes. "Remedying it needs to be taken equally seriously..."