Racism or Freedom of Speech? You decide...

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

RE: Racism or Freedom of Speech? You decide...

God · Foro Master

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

With that realization in mind... screw everything I said before about uncontrolled immigration. Let them suffer the full effect of Moctezuma's Revenge. You wanna take our land? Well, you're gonna have to take its people.

en lenguaje mas florido y coloquial....

Si la vaca es tuya.....los becerros tambien biggrin biggrin biggrin

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

With that realization in mind... screw everything I said before about uncontrolled immigration. Let them suffer the full effect of Moctezuma's Revenge. You wanna take our land? Well, you're gonna have to take its people.

Yesi · Guru

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

God wrote: Patinece ?? Cuantos Siglos mas ???Revolucion....mmmmm imaginate quien se envolveria de volada.....Nuestro flamante vecino....Pobres de Nosotros tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de los gringos. Actually, this is so true. I guess it's better to leave things the way they are, otherwise, it would be the perfect opportunity for the US to take what's left of Mexico.

inches gringos

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

God wrote:
Patinece ?? Cuantos Siglos mas ???
Revolucion....mmmmm imaginate quien se envolveria de volada.....Nuestro flamante vecino....Pobres de Nosotros tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de los gringos.

Actually, this is so true. I guess it's better to leave things the way they are, otherwise, it would be the perfect opportunity for the US to take what's left of Mexico.

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

I know!!

But wouldn't it have been awesome to have been the generation to change it all? Ugh, sucks! Where are the Che Guevara's of the world. *sobbing*

God · Foro Master

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Yesi wrote:Jajajajaja mejor no empiezo por que no termino hoy....... Mexico jamaz cambiara eso que ni que..... desgraciadamente hay demaciada ignorancia todavia en nuestro pais..... con eso que la iglesia se opone a todo incluyendo el birth contro no wonder la population is growing like crazy......Este es un problema cultural que no pienso cambiara..... Hemos tenido los mismos problemas por años.....Bueno dije que no hiba a empezar jajajajajajaja (pero me dan cuerda)Well not with that attitude!

It's either a matter of patience or a matter of revolution, baby! And by revolution I don't mean plantones en el zócalo!

Patinece ?? Cuantos Siglos mas ???
Revolucion....mmmmm imaginate quien se envolveria de volada.....Nuestro flamante vecino....Pobres de Nosotros tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de los gringos.

Yesi · Guru

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Yesi wrote: Jajajajaja mejor no empiezo por que no termino hoy....... Mexico jamaz cambiara eso que ni que..... desgraciadamente hay demaciada ignorancia todavia en nuestro pais..... con eso que la iglesia se opone a todo incluyendo el birth contro no wonder la population is growing like crazy......Este es un problema cultural que no pienso cambiara..... Hemos tenido los mismos problemas por años.....Bueno dije que no hiba a empezar jajajajajajaja (pero me dan cuerda)Well not with that attitude!

It's either a matter of patience or a matter of revolution, baby! And by revolution I don't mean plantones en el zócalo!

Sorry but its true, we have been waiting for a change for years.....

Patience Baby

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Yesi wrote:
Jajajajaja mejor no empiezo por que no termino hoy....... Mexico jamaz cambiara eso que ni que..... desgraciadamente hay demaciada ignorancia todavia en nuestro pais..... con eso que la iglesia se opone a todo incluyendo el birth contro no wonder la population is growing like crazy......

Este es un problema cultural que no pienso cambiara..... Hemos tenido los mismos problemas por años.....

Bueno dije que no hiba a empezar jajajajajajaja (pero me dan cuerda)

Well not with that attitude!

It's either a matter of patience or a matter of revolution, baby! And by revolution I don't mean plantones en el zócalo!

Yesi · Guru

God wrote:

Gringa Lahtina wrote: God wrote:Asi es mija..no es por ser offensive pero hai unos Paisanos que prefieren lo facil y gracias a ellos todos somos catalogados como el resto...Borrachos, guevones, sin educacion, tranzas, garañones, sucios....cuando habemos de todo tipo...hay muchos Mexicanos que tienen muchas cualidades como personas... pero desafortunadamente no todos hai tenido las opurtunidades de demostrarlo.Creo que es un grandisimo problema cultural y educacional de todos los mexicanos, que hemos permitido ser victimas de Politicos corruptos por generaciones....Ojala algun dia cambie....alcabo soñar no cuesta nada.-- Edited by God at 13:44, 2007-04-05Ahí está el meollo del asunto. But before you can even care about being educated, you need to have a full stomach. And to do that, there needs to be a whole reform to the current system. You need to get rid of all those corrupt/inept politicians, you need to improve Mexico's industry... oh my god, todo es un círculo vicioso y... no, no, no... no manches, wey... se necesita un chingo de cosas. Exacto es un circulo vicioso donde los que se benefician no lo van a permitir.......

Jajajajaja mejor no empiezo por que no termino hoy....... Mexico jamaz cambiara eso que ni que..... desgraciadamente hay demaciada ignorancia todavia en nuestro pais..... con eso que la iglesia se opone a todo incluyendo el birth contro no wonder la population is growing like crazy......

Este es un problema cultural que no pienso cambiara..... Hemos tenido los mismos problemas por años.....

Bueno dije que no hiba a empezar jajajajajajaja (pero me dan cuerda)

God · Foro Master

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

God wrote:Asi es mija..no es por ser offensive pero hai unos Paisanos que prefieren lo facil y gracias a ellos todos somos catalogados como el resto...Borrachos, guevones, sin educacion, tranzas, garañones, sucios....cuando habemos de todo tipo...hay muchos Mexicanos que tienen muchas cualidades como personas... pero desafortunadamente no todos hai tenido las opurtunidades de demostrarlo.Creo que es un grandisimo problema cultural y educacional de todos los mexicanos, que hemos permitido ser victimas de Politicos corruptos por generaciones....Ojala algun dia cambie....alcabo soñar no cuesta nada.-- Edited by God at 13:44, 2007-04-05Ahí está el meollo del asunto. But before you can even care about being educated, you need to have a full stomach. And to do that, there needs to be a whole reform to the current system. You need to get rid of all those corrupt/inept politicians, you need to improve Mexico's industry... oh my god, todo es un círculo vicioso y... no, no, no... no manches, wey... se necesita un chingo de cosas.

Exacto es un circulo vicioso donde los que se benefician no lo van a permitir.......

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

God wrote:
Asi es mija..no es por ser offensive pero hai unos Paisanos que prefieren lo facil y gracias a ellos todos somos catalogados como el resto...Borrachos, guevones, sin educacion, tranzas, garañones, sucios....cuando habemos de todo tipo...hay muchos Mexicanos que tienen muchas cualidades como personas... pero desafortunadamente no todos hai tenido las opurtunidades de demostrarlo.Creo que es un grandisimo problema cultural y educacional de todos los mexicanos, que hemos permitido ser victimas de Politicos corruptos por generaciones....

Ojala algun dia cambie....alcabo soñar no cuesta nada.

-- Edited by God at 13:44, 2007-04-05

Ahí está el meollo del asunto. But before you can even care about being educated, you need to have a full stomach. And to do that, there needs to be a whole reform to the current system. You need to get rid of all those corrupt/inept politicians, you need to improve Mexico's industry... oh my god, todo es un círculo vicioso y... no, no, no... no manches, wey... se necesita un chingo de cosas. cry

God · Foro Master

Gringa Lahtina wrote:
Plus, let's not play stupid, ForoGod, a lot of the Mexicans who migrate to the U.S. are the lowest of the low. Most of them don't even have elementary school education let alone speak English... entonces, a qué le tiran? Unskilled work? Pffffff they've got a hell of a way to go if they want to reach the ever-elusive American Dream like that. I don't know, I've just seen too many lazy, loud, alcoholic Mexicans.

Asi es mija..no es por ser offensive pero hai unos Paisanos que prefieren lo facil y gracias a ellos todos somos catalogados como el resto...Borrachos, guevones, sin educacion, tranzas, garañones, sucios....cuando habemos de todo tipo...hay muchos Mexicanos que tienen muchas cualidades como personas... pero desafortunadamente no todos hai tenido las opurtunidades de demostrarlo.

Creo que es un grandisimo problema cultural y educacional de todos los mexicanos, que hemos permitido ser victimas de Politicos corruptos por generaciones....

Ojala algun dia cambie....alcabo soñar no cuesta nada.

-- Edited by God at 13:44, 2007-04-05

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Guadalupana wrote:

Anyway, i'm not sure what the comotion above is all about, but i think now a days, people have become WAY to sensitive.

Have you heard about the Jay's commercial where a top DH for the jays has a sort of pillow fight with the kid and knocks him off the bed? Yeah well they're taking it off the air.

And remember that Kia commercial where there was a couple making out on the front seat of the car, only for the lady to get out and head back to her cop car? Yep, they edited that one too, with a stupid goat.

You're telling me that's democracy? freedom of speech? bloody hell i can't even try to be creative in order to sell my product anymore!!!

God that commercial was stupid!!!!

Guadalupana · Foro Master

Anyway, i'm not sure what the comotion above is all about, but i think now a days, people have become WAY to sensitive.

Have you heard about the Jay's commercial where a top DH for the jays has a sort of pillow fight with the kid and knocks him off the bed? Yeah well they're taking it off the air.

And remember that Kia commercial where there was a couple making out on the front seat of the car, only for the lady to get out and head back to her cop car? Yep, they edited that one too, with a stupid goat.

You're telling me that's democracy? freedom of speech? bloody hell i can't even try to be creative in order to sell my product anymore!!!

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Jaime Cruz wrote:

That guy was just an idiot trying to get attention and increase a little bit of hate towards Mexicans or what he probably considers all Latinos

Yes, he did so in an idiotic way but I really do think that immigration problem needs to be addressed. And Mexicans need to stop reproducing!

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote: WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you
I KNOW! I was all about that too.

That guy was just an idiot trying to get attention and increase a little bit of hate towards Mexicans or what he probably considers all Latinos

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Jaime Cruz wrote:
WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you

I KNOW! I was all about that too.

Pajaro_Loco · Guru

Jaime Cruz wrote:

this video.

The Fan · Senior Member

calling someone a RED NECK could also be taken as a racism or freedom of speach so basicly we are save just NOT TALKING AT ALL ABOUT OTHERS RACES JUST OUR OWN LOL

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Racism? Hmmm... sort of, kind of, in a way...

With all this global migration, I think now, more than ever before, most people are used to sharing "their country" with foreigners. This person certainly seems to have been used to Mexicans-Hispanics here and there but now there are so many it's getting ridiculous. He definitely has a right to be concerned. If I suddenly started seeing a bunch of gringos in Mexico, settling down, that is and not just your party crowd, I'd be like WTF? I wouldn't be worried about the old farts who want to settle down either, I mean people in their prereproductive and productive years.

My point is: uncontrolled immigration IS and SHOULD be a concern for any country. It places a burden on the country receiving the immigrants economically, socially, legally... errrrrrr what else? Plus, let's not play stupid, ForoGod, a lot of the Mexicans who migrate to the U.S. are the lowest of the low. Most of them don't even have elementary school education let alone speak English... entonces, a qué le tiran? Unskilled work? Pffffff they've got a hell of a way to go if they want to reach the ever-elusive American Dream like that. I don't know, I've just seen too many lazy, loud, alcoholic Mexicans. As a Mexican living abroad, even Iiiiiiiiiii'm pissed when bump into that type of Mexican.

I'm not at all bothered with what this person wrote and I think more people should complain as well so that maybe, HOPEFULLY, both governments start to take action. Mexico has a huge, huge problem (well, many actually) and it's not going to be solved by accusing the gringos of being racists.

Among Mexico's many problems, the one that concerns me the most is population growth. Mexico, along with India, are among the countries with the fastest growing population. Mexico's crippling economy cannot cope with this and voilá... there go the Mexicans. Someone has got to put a stop to this reproducing like bunnies crap!

Ni que estuvieran tan chulos, ca'ones!

-- Edited by Gringa Lahtina at 13:29, 2007-04-05

don_plyero · Guru

im gonna keep my mouth shut couse once its open

all hell starts evileye

luna chiquitita · TOP Guru

@ McShortie

I'm 5'1 .... i'm a midget!!

hmm... probably why i have this keen fascination with them

-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 15:30, 2007-04-04

Yesi · Guru

Ignorant!!! this guy keeps referering in his article to Mexicans....... He preobably thinks only Mexicans speak Spanish LOL......

I wonder if he asked if they were from Mexico.... cause most latinos look alike right.....

We are gorgeous.....

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Jaime Cruz wrote:

Ya the guy is being a bit racist, but the part below sounded funny to me

Now yesterday there were even more! No English. Children who don't speak English. Full grown adult males averaging about 5' 5" in height - clearly not reared on healthy American cuisine. And you should've seen their clothes. Their fashion sense came right out of this video.WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you

That touched me deep inside....

-- Edited by McOSIRIS at 15:18, 2007-04-04

Chale Tanga · TOP Guru

Jaime Cruz wrote:

Ya the guy is being a bit racist, but the part below sounded funny to me

Now yesterday there were even more! No English. Children who don't speak English. Full grown adult males averaging about 5' 5" in height - clearly not reared on healthy American cuisine. And you should've seen their clothes. Their fashion sense came right out of this video.WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you

I know, i found that funny too.

Guess that he meant that latinos are not priviledged enough to be reared on a healthy dose of combo number 2 and biggie sized fries.

X4v13r · Comandante

Jaime Cruz wrote:

Ya the guy is being a bit racist, but the part below sounded funny to me

Now yesterday there were even more! No English. Children who don't speak English. Full grown adult males averaging about 5' 5" in height - clearly not reared on healthy American cuisine. And you should've seen their clothes. Their fashion sense came right out of this video.WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you

goes to show how "smart" that guy is

~X

God · Foro Master

Chale Tanga wrote:

but its also laced with a double coating of racism.

Nice.....

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

Ya the guy is being a bit racist, but the part below sounded funny to me

Now yesterday there were even more! No English. Children who don't speak English. Full grown adult males averaging about 5' 5" in height - clearly not reared on healthy American cuisine. And you should've seen their clothes. Their fashion sense came right out of this video.

WTF is healthy or good tasting American cuisine?
It can't be macaroni and cheese cause I know too much cheese ain't good for you

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Chale Tanga wrote:

@ luna: go back to Lunaville you beaner!!!! And take Pedro and Jose with you!!!

I think we find this offensive b/c they are speaking about one of our 'own kind'... had this ignorant fool been talking about some other race... say for exemple the Pakistani's.... then no one would have said anything. We most likely wouldve agreed and posted some jokes and whatnot.

When it comes down to it, yes it is freedom of speech, but its also laced with a double coating of racism.

Chale Tanga · TOP Guru

@ luna: go back to Lunaville you beaner!!!!

And take Pedro and Jose with you!!!

I think we find this offensive b/c they are speaking about one of our 'own kind'... had this ignorant fool been talking about some other race... say for exemple the Pakistani's.... then no one would have said anything. We most likely wouldve agreed and posted some jokes and whatnot.

When it comes down to it, yes it is freedom of speech, but its also laced with a double coating of racism.

God · Foro Master

it's called Ingnorant Red Neck, honkie

luna chiquitita · TOP Guru

So I travelled a road less travelled today (I went to the General Section of Foro

) and found a thread that had this link: http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000271.html

Ignorance? Intolerance? Racism? or just plain old Freedom of Speech?

I figure I can't complain 'cause there's a tad bit of racism in all of us but since it's about Mexicans or hispanic people it obviously bothers me. Yet, I say nothing 'cause I clearly do the same.... so I dismiss it as Freedom of Speech and nothing else.

Your thoughts?